1: Who's Danna? Get to know "The Hippie"
Welcome to the So Frickin' Healthy podcast, where we talk about the wild world of health and wellness with a side of sass!
Today, Megan and I, Danna, are kicking things off by getting to know each other like we’re on a first date, but instead of awkward small talk, we’re all about sharing our juicy journeys through health coaching and life in Switzerland. Spoiler alert: I’m basically a hippie who fell in love and ended up in the Alps.
We’ll talk about my rollercoaster ride of health transformations, the hilariously absurd moments of convincing family members about healthy choices, and how I turned my dad’s foot saga into a success story. Trust me, you don’t want to miss the part where I dish out some real talk about food, self-love, and the importance of grace when navigating your health journey. So grab your favorite snack (preferably not gummy bears), and let’s get this party started!
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- 00:00 - Introduction to the Hosts
- 04:21 - A Journey Through Health and Wellness
- 06:42 - A Transformative Journey: My Dad's Health Awakening
- 11:43 - Embracing Self-Love in Nutrition
- 19:16 - The Challenges and Rewards of Parenting
- 23:14 - Exploring Unique Health Perspectives
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00:00 - Untitled
00:00 - Introduction to the Hosts
04:21 - A Journey Through Health and Wellness
06:42 - A Transformative Journey: My Dad's Health Awakening
11:43 - Embracing Self-Love in Nutrition
19:16 - The Challenges and Rewards of Parenting
23:14 - Exploring Unique Health Perspectives
Speaker A
Hi, and welcome to the so Freaking Healthy podcast.
Speaker A
I'm Megan McCrory, and on this first episode of the show, I'll be interviewing my co host, Donna Levy Hoffman.
Speaker A
We are both certified health coaches and live in Switzerland, but beyond that, I don't really know much about Donna.
Speaker A
Stay with us as we just scratched the surface of Donna, our resident hippie.
Speaker A
Hi, Donna.
Speaker B
Hey, Megan.
Speaker A
How's it going?
Speaker B
Am I saying it right?
Speaker B
You are.
Speaker B
You're the only person on earth who says my name right.
Speaker B
Could that be you're my soulmate?
Speaker B
I've said it before.
Speaker A
So we're just going to chit chat.
Speaker A
I'm going to ask you some questions because, honestly, I know nothing about you, but we're doing this podcast together, so this is a really good idea.
Speaker A
Might as well get to know each other while we're doing this, right?
Speaker B
I think it's a perfect idea.
Speaker B
I would love to know more about you, and I always love talking.
Speaker B
So here we go.
Speaker A
Good.
Speaker A
Okay, Donna, so we already got past your first name, which is a milestone.
Speaker B
I think it's a huge achievement.
Speaker B
It is.
Speaker A
So I'm curious.
Speaker A
We both live in Switzerland, but we're not both from here, so maybe you could tell me just a brief little history about how you found your way to Switzerland.
Speaker B
Gosh.
Speaker B
A brief love.
Speaker B
Love.
Speaker A
Oh, that's really brief, right?
Speaker B
You want it?
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker B
I grew up in Israel and in Boston, and I moved back to Israel shortly before going to the army.
Speaker B
And shortly after I was done with the army, I met my husband and I.
Speaker B
You know, it's one of those really sappy stories of, like, I saw him and immediately fell in love and, you know, like, yeah, Angels were singing.
Speaker B
It was one of those kind of, like, beautiful stories.
Speaker B
And we fel love, got married very quickly, moved to Switzerland very quickly.
Speaker B
And so, you know, our move to Switzerland wasn't planned, but it's been 17 years.
Speaker B
Doesn't seem like we're going anywhere anytime soon, so here we are.
Speaker A
He's not Swiss then.
Speaker A
He is.
Speaker A
So he just happened to be in Israel, and you were just like, hey, you.
Speaker A
Checking you out?
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker B
And now, yeah, he is.
Speaker B
He is Swiss.
Speaker B
His parents are not, but he is Swiss.
Speaker B
And he was traveling.
Speaker B
He came.
Speaker B
He was traveling in Israel and volunteering in Israel, and he actually met a good friend of mine back in the day when they were both traveling to New York.
Speaker B
Long story short, he emailed him and said, do you want to meet up?
Speaker B
I'm in Israel.
Speaker B
And so the guy goes like, should I meet this Swedish guy, by the way.
Speaker B
Swedish.
Speaker B
And we were like, sure, why the hell not?
Speaker B
And he goes, okay, then come with me.
Speaker B
And so we.
Speaker B
My friend and I came with him and we went to pick them up from a pub, and they were coming down the stairs, and I see this, like, handsome guy with a white shirt and blue eyes and just gorgeousness.
Speaker B
And I was like, here's my husband.
Speaker B
Welcome.
Speaker B
I don't know your name.
Speaker B
So that first night that we met, we stayed up talking until 7 o' clock in the morning.
Speaker A
Oh, isn't that.
Speaker A
Isn't that a movie?
Speaker A
So you got like this movie romance thing ending in, like, the most awesome country.
Speaker A
Well, not ending.
Speaker A
You guys aren't dead yet, but yeah.
Speaker A
So where you are right now, that's really cool.
Speaker A
Really cool.
Speaker A
When you were in Switzerland, is that when you started really focusing on health and wellness?
Speaker B
I think the.
Speaker B
That health bone was always in my body in one way, shape or form.
Speaker B
I grew up with a grandma who was like, everything revolved around food and health, and there was a direct link to food and health.
Speaker B
But the rest of my family, they're going to hate me for saying this on the first episode of our podcast, but health, food, yeah, yeah, food is a huge topic, but health?
Speaker B
Not necessarily.
Speaker B
But I did realize that I had a different understanding to what health was before I even got into it.
Speaker B
Long story short, when I was pregnant with my firstborn, I was four months pregnant.
Speaker B
We lost Grandma to lymphoma, which is a sort of cancer, and she had it for four years, and she died, like less than 40 kilos.
Speaker B
So she was just miserable for the last four years of her life.
Speaker B
She was really miserable.
Speaker B
My kids are 15 months apart.
Speaker B
That's a whole crazy different story.
Speaker B
But after my second was born, we found out that my mom had lymphoma as well, and another form of cancer.
Speaker B
By then, I had two kids.
Speaker B
I was severely depressed, on medication and sleeping pills and everything.
Speaker B
And I was overweight.
Speaker B
I was 20 kilos overweight.
Speaker B
And then the news about my mom came in and I was like, fuck me.
Speaker B
Like, oh, by the way, we're going to curse a lot on this vodka alert.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker B
I literally said, like, fuck me.
Speaker B
How's that?
Speaker B
You know what?
Speaker B
You know, Grandma had it, mom has it.
Speaker B
Like, I don't want my kids to go through seeing someone they love suffer this much, and I don't want to go through it.
Speaker B
And so something clicked in me and I started looking.
Speaker B
And I hated being on antidepressants and I hated looking in the mirror.
Speaker B
Not Recognizing myself, it was just a terrible feeling.
Speaker B
And so I started researching, which led me into this kind of.
Speaker B
I'm not going to call it black hole.
Speaker B
It's a very beautiful, bright white hole of functional medicine and nutrition and integrative nutrition and all of that.
Speaker B
And.
Speaker B
And within that year, I managed to lose my excess weight.
Speaker B
I managed to drop the antidepressants, and I was really feeling like I was just this person that I felt that I was.
Speaker B
And that led me to starting a business, continuing my education, starting my business and everything like that.
Speaker B
And it was just a huge passion that never ended.
Speaker B
I don't think it ever will.
Speaker A
No, I don't think stuff like that goes away, you know?
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker A
What's like the thing in the, in the, the past, in your history with your business and your health journey, what has impacted you?
Speaker A
Like, you're going, that's like this bright shining star, this moment.
Speaker B
Or.
Speaker A
And I think specifically maybe with yourself, but also maybe with a client, somebody that you helped.
Speaker A
Can you maybe tell me a story about something that really impacted you that happened to somebody else because you were helping them?
Speaker B
I love that question, and I get that question often.
Speaker B
And funny enough, my story is actually about my dad because you know how hard it is to convince your family members that you know a little bit better than they do.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker B
So I'm going to try to keep this short, but my dad had diabetes and high cholesterol pretty much since I was six years old.
Speaker B
And one day, it was probably about six years ago or so, maybe five, five, five or six years ago he came.
Speaker B
So he was living in the U.S.
Speaker B
i'm living in Switzerland and my.
Speaker B
Our family is in Israel.
Speaker B
So, you know, he, he flew to Israel.
Speaker B
My parents flew to Israel and were there and then they stopped over in Switzerland before going back home.
Speaker B
And he managed to wound his foot, his toe in Israel on the beach.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker B
He probably stepped on some class and he was in the hospital for a couple of weeks in Israel with antibiotics in the vein.
Speaker B
And then they gave him like creams and antibiotics and stuff.
Speaker B
And so he came to Switzerland and I looked at his foot and I go, dude, it's soon gangrene.
Speaker B
Like, how is this not.
Speaker B
They're going to cut your foot off.
Speaker B
Wtf?
Speaker B
Like, seriously, if that's not a wake up moment for you, what will be?
Speaker B
You know?
Speaker B
And so I told him off.
Speaker B
And then I told him, you know, you are now you're going to be in the kitchen with me and you're going to be.
Speaker B
Stop being a big Baby.
Speaker B
About not eating vegetables and whatever.
Speaker A
And.
Speaker B
And of course, he was like, I don't want to.
Speaker B
And then I literally.
Speaker B
We went shopping together.
Speaker B
My mom does all of the cooking, really.
Speaker B
So of course I integrated her as well.
Speaker B
But I wanted him to see what I'm doing, and I wanted him to try it out.
Speaker B
So I would get some spinach.
Speaker B
And he's like, I don't like spinach.
Speaker B
And I'm like, well, you're going to taste it, and you're going to.
Speaker B
You know, you're going to taste it.
Speaker B
And of course, everything I made, he liked.
Speaker B
And so, long story short, he loved the food.
Speaker B
They went back home and found out that the electricity went out when they were gone.
Speaker B
And both refrigerators, because America, both huge refrigerators, all of the food had to go.
Speaker B
He was like, that was a sign.
Speaker B
That was a sign that I just need to restock with the good stuff.
Speaker B
And so he restocked with the good.
Speaker A
Stuff.
Speaker B
Within, I think it was like a month or a month and a half.
Speaker B
He had his blood work with his doctor.
Speaker B
Doctor for 26 years back then.
Speaker B
And he got his results, and he forwarded me the email.
Speaker B
I still have that email somewhere where his doctor said, your bad cholesterol is good.
Speaker B
Your diabetes is not existing.
Speaker B
Keep listening to your daughter.
Speaker B
Three lines.
Speaker A
Nice.
Speaker B
I was like, was that hard?
Speaker B
He was like, no, of course not.
Speaker B
Your mom is cooking, but.
Speaker A
I don't want to do anything but eat.
Speaker B
Yeah, exactly what you do.
Speaker A
Anyways.
Speaker B
But the incredible thing is that not only was he feeling better before the results, he was taking less sofa naps because he was just a couch potato.
Speaker B
Like, he would just literally sleep all day in front of the tv.
Speaker B
You know, he was taking walks, which he hardly ever did.
Speaker B
He felt the energy.
Speaker B
He felt better in his own body.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker B
And so which obviously also helped with the insulin levels because movement.
Speaker B
Hey, surprise.
Speaker B
So he was really, like.
Speaker B
It was such an incredible kind of moving moment for all of us because a.
Speaker B
Your daughter just taught you something.
Speaker B
Wow.
Speaker B
You don't necessarily know better than your kids.
Speaker B
I learned that the hard way with my own kids very early on.
Speaker B
They know a lot more than I do.
Speaker B
But also the fact that it is not that hard, which was the highlight, because he wasn't living on salads and couldn't eat things that he loved.
Speaker B
He just really made smarter choices, and he was just a new person.
Speaker B
And so that was just.
Speaker B
That is probably the most moving story that I have, you know, alongside hundreds of clients that I had.
Speaker B
This one is just obviously, for Obvious reasons, dearest to my heart, or the.
Speaker A
Hardest nut to crack.
Speaker A
But when you do, it's the greatest reward.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker A
That's so cool.
Speaker A
That's really, really cool.
Speaker A
I mean, not cool that he had diabetes and had to go through all that, but I would say that that's probably the closest thing to a wake up call where he's not being life threatened.
Speaker A
Right.
Speaker A
But still the thought of losing a limb due to a disease that's basically avoidable for most people.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker A
Very good.
Speaker A
Oh, wow.
Speaker A
I'm curious, with all your experimentation with foods, what is your best regimen for you?
Speaker A
Like, what are the things that you make sure that you have in your diet versus the things that you make sure you avoid and why?
Speaker A
What is it about the foods that you avoid that, like, what do you feel when you're eating those that you know that's not good for you?
Speaker B
Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker B
Look, the first thing that I have to say is the, the one thing that I am always leaning towards that has nothing to do with food in terms of nutrition is self love.
Speaker B
Because when we kick ourselves for the things that we just ate that we should not eat, okay?
Speaker B
And I'm putting quotation marks for those not watching the video.
Speaker B
It just gets worse, right?
Speaker B
We're making things worse.
Speaker B
We're kicking ourselves.
Speaker B
So you're eating, you're going out with your friends and you're gonna go, you're going, like, I'm gonna have that pizza today.
Speaker B
Right?
Speaker B
And then you go home and you're miserable because you're like, oh, I shouldn't have done it.
Speaker B
I ruined everything.
Speaker B
Again, quotation marks.
Speaker B
I ruined everything.
Speaker B
Going to pull out that Haagen Dazs from the freezer and eat the whole bucket because I might as well, right?
Speaker B
And so, and that spiral just continues.
Speaker B
And so the first thing that I work with my clients, first thing that I do with myself is self grace and self love.
Speaker B
Because if I say, cool, I did this, I chose to have pizza with my friends.
Speaker B
I enjoyed their company, food was delicious.
Speaker B
Obviously, everyone loves pizza.
Speaker B
Well, most people.
Speaker B
And now I'm going to say, cool, I love myself.
Speaker B
I forgive myself.
Speaker B
Let's move on.
Speaker B
What's the next best meal that I'm going to have?
Speaker B
So much easier to overcome that little glitch on the way, but it's life.
Speaker B
Having said that, I do know that dairy is something that is definitely super inflammatory for me.
Speaker B
I used to suffer from chronic sinus infections and when I stopped with dairy, lo and behold, it was gone.
Speaker B
Gluten is.
Speaker B
I just become stupid.
Speaker B
I genuinely will not be able to form a sentence like, I'll eat my pizza and I'll enjoy it, and then I'll go home, and for about 20 hours, there's no one to talk to.
Speaker A
Nothing.
Speaker B
Yeah, just stupidity.
Speaker B
Like 100% stupidity, you know, so those are the main ones.
Speaker B
And of course, like, kind of like processed.
Speaker B
Processed foods and stuff.
Speaker B
So I'm.
Speaker B
How should I say this?
Speaker B
I'm.
Speaker B
I'm a bit of a health freak.
Speaker B
So I.
Speaker B
Even when I have cookies, I will have cookies that are Donna approved and ingredients approved and stuff.
Speaker B
But having said that, it doesn't mean that I don't have these things.
Speaker B
I just know how stupid I'm going to be or how, you know, how my body is going to react when I do.
Speaker B
And so when I do choose to have them, I choose to have it on the weekend when I know I'm, you know, again, I could be stupid or whatever.
Speaker B
Or.
Speaker B
Yeah, I kind of make that executive decision to know how I'm gonna feel.
Speaker B
And if I choose to do that, then it's for the right cause.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker A
No, that's excellent.
Speaker A
I'm curious how you.
Speaker A
I mean, that's your own personal choice, what you're eating, but you're also a wife and a mother.
Speaker A
How does your personal choices with food, how has that impacted your kids and your husband?
Speaker B
Hugely.
Speaker B
Hugely.
Speaker B
My husband, when I met him, was like, living off of coke and gummy bears and sleeping 14 hours a day, and that wasn't even enough.
Speaker B
When I met him, I was add and he had ibs.
Speaker B
Pretty bad ibs.
Speaker B
Those things are behind us.
Speaker B
I know that some people are going to be like, what?
Speaker B
She had ADD and now she doesn't.
Speaker B
Yeah, I had ADD and now I don't.
Speaker B
I now have only the superpowers of the ADD and sometimes some distraction, but I'm okay.
Speaker B
My kids.
Speaker B
It's harder with kids if health is a word that you keep repeating, because health is such a convoluting word.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker B
It means something different to me and to you two health coaches, you know, let alone children.
Speaker B
So it's just finding a way to communicate that.
Speaker B
I have one.
Speaker B
They will listen to this one day and they'll hate me.
Speaker B
But I have one little angel and one little devil.
Speaker B
They're both, you know, both angels and devils in their own way.
Speaker B
But one who will really, he listens and he's like, maybe we shouldn't have pizza today, Mommy.
Speaker B
Because, you know.
Speaker B
And then the other one's like, yes.
Speaker B
Pizza and tiramisu.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker B
You know, like.
Speaker B
And he'll just kind of go, like.
Speaker B
And just, you know, shove it in.
Speaker B
So you just do what you can as best you can.
Speaker B
There are certain things that won't come into the house, but, like, if we go out, we'll go out and eat.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker B
So.
Speaker B
So we kind of choose sometimes and we.
Speaker B
Often they will choose the healthier choice.
Speaker B
Often they will go like, let's go to our favorite salad bar.
Speaker B
And I'm like, but there's a pizza right across the street.
Speaker B
And they're like, no, we love them because they know they get, like, cottage cheese there, which they don't get at home.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker B
So it's the little things.
Speaker B
But sometimes we just go like, all right, it's gluten overload, guys.
Speaker B
Let's just take our digestive enzymes and cross our fingers and hope for the best and enjoy our food.
Speaker B
So I think there is definitely that balance and also the fact that what I'm cooking at home is just really delicious.
Speaker B
So they're going to camp this week because it's vacation again in Switzerland, because it's always vacation here.
Speaker B
And they insisted that they don't want to eat the food that they going to get there.
Speaker B
So I made like a buckwheat bread that they love or bought like these wraps.
Speaker B
I should tell you about these wraps that they, you know, new wraps that they have now, which are gluten free.
Speaker B
And they love it and they enjoy it and they have that energy afterwards.
Speaker B
So they know how their body reacts also to certain foods.
Speaker B
And then the little one, of course, goes and then eats the dessert that they have there as well, which is totally fine.
Speaker A
That's such an amazing gift to give your kids at that age is the awareness that a lot of people lack awareness about how food reacts to their body, about how eating something on a Monday might affect their mood on a Tuesday.
Speaker A
And I think that's, you know, it sounds like you do a really good balance of like, you know, when we're at home, it's my way, but it's good.
Speaker A
But also that they realize that with how food affects them and how.
Speaker A
And that's like.
Speaker A
I mean, that's such an important learning to have at such a young age.
Speaker A
Most people, A lot of people never understand that the awareness of food and to have it that young.
Speaker A
I'm a little jealous.
Speaker A
My mom also did really great cooking.
Speaker A
But, you know, that's from my stories.
Speaker B
Will come in a bit.
Speaker A
But yeah, it's definitely.
Speaker A
I'm I'm impressed by your mothering skills to be able to do that with kids.
Speaker B
Don't be too impressed.
Speaker B
I'm not that good of a mom.
Speaker B
But, you know, it's one thing that I am proud of.
Speaker B
It's like one of the only things, because I always say this, especially to people who don't have kids or want to have kids or like, you know, I always say, like, look, I was the perfect parent before I had kids.
Speaker B
As soon as they came, I was a hot mess.
Speaker B
Hot, hot mess, right?
Speaker B
And until today, I'm kind of, like, trying to figure things out, and they're already 13 and 14.
Speaker B
I have no clue what just happened.
Speaker B
And they're already, like, soon starting to stink up the place, being teenagers, you know?
Speaker B
And so for me, if I die today, the one thing that I'm really proud of and happy about is that they will be able to fend for themselves.
Speaker B
They'll be able to cook for themselves.
Speaker B
They make meals for us all the time, and they will be able to understand the nutrition and health aspect of things.
Speaker B
Everything else, dude, I broke them.
Speaker B
You know, I tried to avoid things that my parents did with me.
Speaker B
I broke them in other ways.
Speaker B
So, you know, it's just, you do your best and you hope for the best, and, yeah, parenting is freaking hard.
Speaker B
It's the hardest job on the planet.
Speaker B
Hardest job hands down.
Speaker A
So that brings us to your new baby, this podcast, because that's basically like another child birthing something creative and doing it also with another person who you don't know.
Speaker A
Because we really can't express to the listeners enough how much we don't know each other.
Speaker A
I'm curious if you could share with our listeners why.
Speaker A
Why did you want to start a podcast?
Speaker A
And really, what do you hope.
Speaker A
Hope to get across to listeners or bring to the listeners?
Speaker A
Why would.
Speaker A
Why should they tune in next time for another episode?
Speaker B
Because we're frickin awesome.
Speaker A
Because we're so freaking healthy.
Speaker B
And we're gonna have such amazing guests on this show, and we're both just awesome.
Speaker B
That's one.
Speaker B
But, you know, I think that the reason why I thought having a podcast would be really, really cool, especially co hosting one, because I don't trust myself to do it every.
Speaker B
Every month or whatever, if I do it alone, but to do it together.
Speaker B
I think what's important for me to deliver to people is that, first of all, health is not just nutrition.
Speaker B
It's not just exercise.
Speaker B
Right?
Speaker B
It's so many things.
Speaker B
It's so many things, but also it's things that you and I could probably talk about for hours and hours and we need an outlet.
Speaker B
So I think that that's definitely one thing.
Speaker B
I mean, you know, I could go on live videos on social media and talk about things alone, staring at myself, but it's so much nicer to do it with another person.
Speaker A
It's so difficult, like just staring back at yourself on a screen and yeah, it's definitely not as fun as co hosting.
Speaker B
No, I think it really isn't.
Speaker B
And it's.
Speaker B
You never know how long.
Speaker B
Like we can talk for hours now.
Speaker B
If you want to tune out and pause, tune out and pause and come back to us later.
Speaker B
I always pause my podcasts, so I think it's, you know, it's that it's the fact that people can really tune in and listen to topics that we find to be so frickin healthy and so frickin funny and delicious and whatever.
Speaker B
I think our plan is awesome.
Speaker B
To first of all interview other experts of different fields and also to review products and to talk about certain things that could help people to just take that extra step forward towards a healthier future.
Speaker B
And those baby steps are all that matters.
Speaker A
Yeah, excellent.
Speaker A
Yeah, no, I'm super excited about some of the stuff we have coming up.
Speaker A
I love, I love the idea of, oh, you tried this, I tried that.
Speaker A
How did it work for you?
Speaker A
What did, what happened?
Speaker A
Yeah, because I'm a gadget freak.
Speaker A
I just love all these gadgets and what does it tell me about my body and how can I learn more and experimentation.
Speaker A
I think I love the experimentation part of the body and how you, you know, I mean, it's a machine and how you work it, you know, it's going to react differently.
Speaker A
So I think that's, for me, it's interesting and I.
Speaker A
So for me, co hosting with you is another perspective.
Speaker A
Right.
Speaker A
I think that's always what podcasts like this bring.
Speaker A
Because who needs another health based podcast?
Speaker A
Like how many health based podcasts do you have in your, your library right now?
Speaker A
And that's always the fear of starting something new in a topic that is kind of saturated in a way, but it's that fear monger that, that inner saboteur that says what you have to say isn't any more valuable than what anybody else has to say say.
Speaker A
And for me, that's kind of my hurdle with all of anything with public speaking or getting yourself out there.
Speaker A
But it's always the, my lens is different than your lens and it's going to be different than the lens of the person who's listening to us.
Speaker A
We always, always have a unique perspective on something.
Speaker A
And I think from my point of view, it's, do we help one person today think about something different?
Speaker A
That to consider a different way of doing something or even just to reflect on themselves going, well, hell, I don't know.
Speaker A
I never thought about that before or, my God, I didn't know that that thing even existed.
Speaker A
Like, that's my.
Speaker A
Like, where I see this as.
Speaker A
And it's all around health, but those kind of little aha moments and kind of guiding people to find something or explore something or learn something about themselves.
Speaker B
100%.
Speaker B
And I think what you said is really important.
Speaker B
I think that people need to understand that your body is your science.
Speaker B
Like, we don't have the answers for everything.
Speaker B
You know, it drives me crazy when my clients send me a video of, I don't know, Whoever, even, like, Dr.
Speaker B
Hyman, who I love.
Speaker B
He's.
Speaker B
He's the best.
Speaker B
They send me a video, and they're like, oh, my God, he said that I should, you know, have kombucha and.
Speaker B
And, you know, like, kimchi and da da, da, da.
Speaker B
And I know that they're histamine intolerant, for example.
Speaker B
And I know that it would literally, like, it will kill them.
Speaker B
Not literally, but, like, it would really be bad for them.
Speaker B
And so I feel like each person needs to understand that they're unique in their.
Speaker B
Their own way, that there is no one diet in one way that works for everyone.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
And it is important to do these steps with someone, you know, but there are definitely steps forward that every single.
Speaker B
Every single person needs to eat more vegetables.
Speaker B
I don't care who we are.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker B
Every single person needs to try to cut down on processed foods.
Speaker B
I don't care who you are.
Speaker B
And so there are definitely things that we will share that will apply to everyone, and I think that we will also make sure is to remind people that they are unique, that it might not work for everyone, and that it is important to keep certain things in mind and otherwise just be graceful with yourself.
Speaker B
Make sure that you give yourself the credit for the little step that was good, not the big one that was bad.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker B
And then move forward, and then we will be there, you know, to chat with you and support you throughout.
Speaker A
So, Donna, thanks so much for sharing.
Speaker A
I obviously know way more about you now than I did a little while ago, but I still know what you are.
Speaker A
Tell me, what are you?
Speaker B
I'm a superwoman.
Speaker B
No, I am a functional medicine certified health coach.
Speaker B
I graduated from the Institute of Integrative Nutrition as well, and I specialize in gut health, so that's me.
Speaker A
Oh, it's so sexy.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
Woo.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
Getting that.
Speaker A
Good.
Speaker A
Excellent.
Speaker A
Thank you so much for sharing all your details and we'll learn lots more about you, I think, with new stories and other things in the future.
Speaker A
So thanks.
Speaker B
Definitely.
Speaker B
And I'm looking forward to.
Speaker B
To do you next time.
Speaker A
Yeah, do me.
Speaker B
Yeah.
