Seed Oils: Villain or Just Misunderstood? - So Frickin' Mini

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Megan has a friend who shits immediately every time she eats anything with sunflower oil in it. And Megan is furious that Barilla—an Italian brand—makes their pesto with fucking sunflower oil. So naturally, we're talking seed oils.
Here's the deal: seed oils have been vilified all over social media, and Danna's take is nuanced. They're not poison—but they are wildly out of balance in our diets. Seed oils are sky-high in omega-6s, and your body needs omega-3s and omega-6s in roughly equal amounts to keep inflammation in check. The problem isn't that seed oils exist. The problem is they're in everything—because they're cheap, shelf-stable, and easy for manufacturers to work with. When you're eating out or buying packaged food, you don't get to choose the oil. And it's almost always a seed oil.
The fix is simpler than you think: just don't use them at home. Cook with olive oil, coconut oil, ghee, butter, sesame oil—whatever you like. That way, when you have the bag of potato chips or eat out, the dose is low enough that your body can handle it. The 80/20 rule in action.
One more thing: that "high heat" olive oil at the store? It's been chemically processed with the same methods used on seed oils to make it shelf-stable. So skip it.
Danna had more to say but the timer won. Mic drop. She's out.
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Hey, Donna.
Danna Levy HoffmannHey, Megan.
Megan J. McCrorySo
Megan J. McCroryI have a friend and every time she eats anything with sunflower oil in it, she shits immediately.
Megan J. McCroryOkay, awesome. Laxative, I guess.
Danna Levy HoffmannI mean, it's not fun, right? And she finds out that like sunflower oils and everything.I was at the store and I'm so sad to see like, for example, Barilla, which is an Italian brand, makes their pesto with fucking sunflower oil. Anyway, so we've talked about oils and fats in the past, but for a 10 minutes, can we just dive back into this?Because I feel like I see this everywhere on social media now that seed oils are bad. So I love this topic. Yeah. Okay, what do you love about this topic?
Megan J. McCroryYou need to put a timer on because I will talk more than 10 minutes.
Danna Levy HoffmannNo, the timer's going.
Megan J. McCroryI'm running out of time already. Look, the thing is this. I do think for the general audience, seed oils, I think have been vilified because they're super high on omega 6s and when.And our body needs the same level of Omega 3 to Omega 6 in order to be balanced, to be healthy, not to have inflammation, stuff like that. But it has been vilified and I think it's. I don't know if it's wrongly been vilified.I just know that it's just out of balance and out of whack with the foods that we're eating, mainly processed foods and foods, you know, like out of the house.Like when you don't have the choice of what oil to use, the restaurant or the company who's making packaged foods is going to go for the cheapest oil, which is usually the seed oils because they're highly processed and they're shelf stable and it's just easier to use. They don't change their consistency with temperature as other healthier oils would. So they're everywhere.And that is exactly the problem is that in our society nowadays, we're relying a lot more on processed foods and foods that are being provided to us from not our own kitchen, which means that there are much higher in those seed oils. So honestly, what we do at home, which works for us is that at home we do not use or have the seed oils.Meaning at home I will cook with anything from olive oil, coconut oil, ghee, you know, some butter, things like that. I'll add sesame oil stuff. So we actually just don't use it.And so when we consume something out of the house, or when we consume a bag of potato chips or whatever it may be, yeah, we are having those Seed oils, but it's not as detrimental to us because it's not in such high doses. So we're making sure to get the omega 3s higher and the omega 6 is lower, if that makes sense.
Danna Levy HoffmannOkay, yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. I just, I also don't have the only. I have olive oil. So if you haven't listened yet, we have an episode where we interview an olive oil sommelier.And it was like a couple years ago, and we'll. We'll pop that somewhere in the show notes. But two things. One, we have been buying our olive oil from her since we've had that episode.And we buy 10 liters of olive oil at a time. Yep, Something stupid. Because that's all we use now, and we absolutely love it. And I also use butter because I love butter.I love the taste that has with butter. And I also use coconut oil.
Megan J. McCroryButter is life. But I think.
Danna Levy HoffmannSorry, no, no.But I think one of the things and, and that comes up in topic is the processing of using these chemicals to strip and manipulate the oils into this shelf stableness. Because that's one of the questions we asked her. We said, well, what about this olive oil that says it's, you know, frying safe or baking safe. Right.So higher than 180 degrees Celsius, which is the smoke point for olive oil.And she's like, no, because to get to that point, they're just using the same chemicals that they use for the seed oils to get the olive oil to that temperature.So even if you say, oh, just use olive oil, then people go to the store and they're like, oh, but this, but my question is, is it really, you know, using those chemicals, Is that bad for us that they're using these chemicals to highly process the oils?Is that part of the problem or is that just something that, like, people have latched onto to say, hey, they're using all these chemicals to process this. And this is what I'm going to latch onto in terms of fear mongering?
Megan J. McCroryYeah, well, that's a good question. And unfortunately, nowadays it's very hard to know what's true and what's not. We're living at a time where we don't know.I mean, like, even if you're smart enough to ask AI, it doesn't mean that he gives you the right answer. Right. Or she. Or they. Sorry, I'm trying to keep it neutral here. But I think again, for me it all comes to the amounts. The amount, like the quality.Not even the amount, but the quality. And the amount of what we're eating. And if we're consuming these processed oils with chemicals or not, or let's just say forget about oils.If we're consuming chemicals in a larger amount, it will obviously be more affected by it than when we 80, 20 rule.When 80% of the time we're having healthy stuff and 20% of the time we're having some chemicals or some quote unquote bad fats and oils or whatever it may be unhealthy things, we should still be generally okay because 80% of the time we're helping our body to process these things and to detox from them. And so we're giving our body the tools to be able to handle that.Whereas where, when you're just living off of these things, it's much harder because your body is immediately going to react to it because it doesn't know any better and it doesn't have the tools to be able to do that. So, yeah, it's a bit tricky, I think. I don't know that there's. I don't know that nowadays we will find a clear and true answer.But what you can do is just. You can just test it out for yourself.Because if you know that you're heavily relying on seed oils, if you're heavily relying on processed foods, foods that are cooked out of the house, or you're even cooking with seed oils such as sunflower oil, wraps oil and stuff like that at home, it is a very easy switch for you to say, okay, great, then how about I just use whatever, olive oil and coconut oil or ghee and butter. Whatever. Whatever your choice is. Yeah. And then see, oh, wow, my inflammation went down a lot in the last months. That's the only switch that I did.I'm literally eating everything else the same. It's just that one switch that I did. And that will just be a very clear answer for you. Is this affecting me or not?
Danna Levy HoffmannYeah, I mean, I don't. I. When I'm eating different things, I don't think the oils have affected me so much.But there was one time I had like this, like, I don't know, like a chili oil, like a chili sauce. I think it was a chipotle sauce thing that they had at the store. And I always like to try new sauces and condiments because I enjoy that.And I had used it several times with no ill effects. And then there was one time I used more of it. Like, instead of just as a drizzle, I used it like, more. And I had the same problem.I immediately had to go to the bathroom. And I feel like that, like, goes right to the point where you're just saying, like, everything in moderation.It's like alcohol or sugar or anything else which your body needs to process. I mean, just in general, your body. Body needs to process food. I don't like to use the word detoxify.It's just a normal process that your body goes through to remove unnecessary things from your body.
Megan J. McCroryExactly.
Danna Levy HoffmannSo I think, as well, what you're saying is, like, hey, if you have potato chips every single day, that's probably not the best thing.But if you have potato chips once in a while or French fries once in a while that are fried in these seed oils and you allow your body the time to process them out, you know, it's like alcohol. If you're constantly feeding the body this, then your body has to work to get it out. And then it's.You know, maybe it's not the greatest thing in the world for you to be doing.
Megan J. McCroryRight, Exactly.
Danna Levy HoffmannBut, yeah. All right, well, did we.
Megan J. McCroryDid we do this under. Did the alarm not go off and we're done with the subject?
Danna Levy HoffmannWe are. Well, I mean, are you done with the subject?
Megan J. McCroryNo, never. Never. But I felt like I need to really cramp it down to one.
Danna Levy HoffmannBut now we only have 10 seconds left in our 10 minutes, so I think we should end it here.
Megan J. McCroryShould we just do countdown instead? No, I'm drinking.
Danna Levy HoffmannThree, two, one.
Megan J. McCroryBye, everyone.
Danna Levy HoffmannShe's like, mic drop. I'm out. Okay. See you later, Donna.
Megan J. McCroryBye.











