When Life Gets in the Way: An Inside Look at Health Coaching - Session 6 Joanna

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Hi, Joanna.

What is new and good?

Not too much.

How about you?

Danna Levy Hoffmann: I am.

Okay.

I am excited for our last call.

I wanna hear how things have been developing or not developing and how I

can help on this last call before we bid.

Farewell.

It's hard to believe.

it's been a really great run.

In the

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Thanks.

Think,

you probably saw my grimace when you asked how things were going.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: yeah.

It's been a rough, I guess, month since we last talked.

Yeah.

And so I just kind of feel like I felt completely off the wagon.

And now that we have our last call, I really wanted to talk with you

about ways to make everything that I've learned stick when it's hard.

you know,

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Hmm.

travel, we had illness, we had holiday season.

now of course it's beginning of December.

I feel like all of that stuff is coming, even more intensively over the next month.

And.

Yeah, I've, you know, I did manage to, you know, make it to Pilates

a couple of times I was doing my strength training, so that's been good.

But on the eating, the nutrition part, I've really slipped.

And now, I mean, I don't know if it's related to that or if I'm just

getting sick, but I'm so exhausted again, and I was feeling like I

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Mm-hmm.

so much energy.

So, I need to get back to that because I, I really notice the difference now.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Hmm.

So, yeah, I guess that's kind of what I'm bringing today.

how do I make it stick when things are hard?

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah, that's a great question.

And it's so funny to me because that.

Literally when I expect, not expect.

I always hope that it is not the case.

But usually around the three month mark, people are like, what has been happening?

I don't know.

I've been doing so well.

So just all of that to say you're not alone.

This is a very normal kind of.

Wave that we go through as humans, we feel great things are going

well, and then something happens.

As you say, it's, is it vacation?

If it's birthdays, if it's illnesses, if it's.

Winter, whatever it may be, right?

We always have the excuse Summer, summer is always, oh, but the ice cream and

winter is always, but it's cold and I need soul food and there's always something.

So You're definitely not alone there.

the real question is, yeah, How do we stick to it and how

do we make sure to go back?

Well, first thing I wanna say is I'm really happy to hear that

you have noticed a difference.

I'm not happy to hear that.

It's back to, being exhausted when you're back to not the nutrition

that we, we discussed, let's say, that has been helping you, but.

In a way I am happy about it because it shows you that it wasn't like,

oh, I'm doing this because Danna told me so, but I'm doing this

because my body is telling me so.

Right.

Which is a really important thing to remember because when I'm not around, you

still have you, you still have your body to kind of signal, oh, yep, I'm exhausted.

Oh, this is why.

Now I understand.

so.

That's one thing to always kind of keep as a partner for yourself because, you

know, we always can make any decision.

we can sit there and go like, okay, exhausted.

I'm, tired.

I was up all night.

The kids have been sick, whatever.

And I just need some soul food and I just need something to

make me feel good emotionally.

Which is okay.

but then we can take a step back and just go like, okay, but how

am I going to feel afterwards?

the momentary satisfaction, let's say that we get from, from, let's

just call it processed foods to, to kind of categorize it.

But, I don't wanna call it bad food.

I don't wanna call it anything else.

So let's just call it processed food.

The immediate gratification that we get, unfortunately kicks us in

the butt like 20 minutes later and onwards and, and for the next week.

So there's always that to remember.

Now, one thing that you can try to do, just as a reminder, I think we discussed

it very shortly, was the five second rule.

Do you remember that?

So we talked about just counting down from five to one and.

That trick can help in different ways, it's to give you a break, to give

you a second to just breathe and not immediately react on your, I just want

this pizza now and fuck the world.

And just kind of go like, okay, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Is that really the rational and, and right decision for me?

but, but it, I mean, and it is because that's the case, right?

I mean, we're just kinda like, you know, well screw that.

that's what I want right now and that that's what it's gonna be which is okay's.

So to also come to that understanding of going like, you know what, I counted

from five to one and I did all the thinking and I did all the the processing,

and I'm gonna have that pizza now.

That on its own will help you eat the pizza and process it differently than

going, fuck, I fuck everything up.

This is terrible.

I'm a terrible human being.

Whatever.

Whatever dialogue you have in your head, maybe you're not kicking yourself so

hard, but you're like, you know, great, now I'm gonna feel like shit tomorrow.

And The thinking around, okay, you know what?

It's fine.

I will have that pizza and I have another choice, another chance during

my next meal to make a different choice.

So the 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 brings us to react with our thinking brain,

with our actual mommy brain, right?

The prefrontal cortex that makes the executive decisions, and it

will always make the right decision if we just give it a chance.

And then we have the, okay, well I made whatever decision I made.

Yeah.

My executive brain decided that I will eat that pizza, and that's okay.

what can I plan on for the next meal to actually kind of

feel like I'm going back to it?

And it really just takes that one meal where you feel like, okay, great.

I did great.

This next meal, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna fuck it up again.

I'm just gonna, enjoy.

Regaining my energy, regaining my brain power, sleeping better.

Everything that was positive about how you felt when you had the healthy food.

and again, even if it doesn't, even if three meals in a row, your

brain's like, no, no, no, we're just gonna have the crappy food.

I don't care.

It most likely is because you're lacking sleep.

And when we're lacking sleep, we're gonna make the wrong decision.

We're going to eat more than we actually can eat, just because that hormone in

our brain is asleep, it's tired, it's exhausted, and it cannot make that

decision and tell you when you're full.

Yep.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: So we just need to kind of remember all of those

little things that our body reacts to.

and give ourselves that grace and just be like, okay, next meal.

You know, I, every single meal I have a choice with every single meal.

So the fact that I, in parentheses, fucked up right with this meal

doesn't mean that I now need to go on.

With those decisions, I can make a different decision in the next meal.

And that pizza didn't erase everything that I've done in the last months.

It did not.

Does that, does that make sense?

Does that resonate with you?

Or what do you, what are your thoughts?

Yeah.

I mean, every day is a new opportunity, right?

To kind of start over again and you're just taking it a bit more granularly.

But like every.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Hmm.

time is a, a new opportunity.

So I, I do like that.

I do try to incorporate that kind of thinking.

yeah, I think maybe what really kind of gets me is like lack of, planning, of

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Mm-hmm.

coming home after the long day and you're like, oh shit.

Like there's nothing in the fridge that I can make a healthy meal out of.

that just exhaustion or the, the

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah,

after the, the, the kids are finally in bed and you're like, oh, I've

got 15 minutes before I need to go to bed and I'm just going to eat chocolate.

You know?

Danna Levy Hoffmann: sure.

Sure.

are the moments where I'm really feeling unsupported.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Mm mm.

you know, I, I really liked one piece of advice that you

gave me kind of at the top of our sessions was to have kind of good

choices available at the table.

and I've really been trying to do that, like just keeping, hard boiled eggs on

hand or, whatever it is that I can just put out and works for the kids as well.

If they don't like whatever I've cooked, then they will also go for that.

so, I do try to have that stuff typically on hand, but yeah, I'm just back into this

and like the meal plan was really nice, but mean, it's so much effort to like plan

a recipe and then go shop for it and then follow the recipe while you're cooking.

And, yeah, I,

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Sure.

that also felt bit, bit by the wayside.

I'm just saying.

But yes, I like the focus on, you know, the, hey next meal as

an opportunity to do better and

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Hmm, hmm.

I will try to bring that into my day to day.

Yeah.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah.

I mean, the five second rule is it really works like magic.

It's just remembering to use it.

it is, it's magic.

It's, it's crazy.

we would sit down and.

You know, you wanna go to sleep and you're super tired, and as soon as I

just count from five to one, I somehow find that energy to get up and make that,

and, and do the right thing in a way.

And if I say I'm super tired, I should go to bed and I don't count.

I usually have at least my husband around to go like, all right, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

so having that accountability partner at home is also quite

helpful if it's something that resonates with your partner as well.

But I think just to utilize the five second rule outside of those moments.

So when you're still kind of like in the morning when you're still

focused and you're like, oh, you know, I should, I don't know what I

don't know, whatever it is that you just, just micro decisions, right?

Should I do X first or Y first?

It doesn't even matter if one is better than the other, that's not even the point.

The point is to, to try the 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, so that when you really need

it, it's in your back pocket and you've already utilized it and you've.

I've kind of gotten accustomed to using it.

I wish I could kind of like embed just that into everyone's brain because

it's one of those easy, easy tricks and literally it takes five seconds, so you

don't even have an excuse to not do it.

It's just counting in your head from five to one.

Like, there's no reason or excuse to not do it.

So I think that's one.

Now you did mention the meal planning and how difficult it is

and, and annoying it is sometimes.

but then coming home, not having those ingredients that you got kind of

wanna put together something simple.

let's dig a little bit deeper into that one because I think that if

we find a. Somewhat of a solution for you, an easy, simple solution

for you, for that specific problem.

It will ease up on you hopefully three to four days of the week.

And then those other days are just as easy as counting down from five to one.

And then you have those options, right?

Okay.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: I wanted to ask what is your process in general?

Do you just kind of, go to the supermarket, let's say once a week

you have your kind of usual things that you grab and, put in the, cart,

and that's kind of what you work with or how does that work for you?

Yeah, I generally do that.

Sometimes I'll.

Think of something that I wanna cook and, go and, get those ingredients.

But I like to have a lot of, options that I can pull together

a meal from that are just there,

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Mm-hmm.

when I'm on top of things.

Then I like to do grocery orders so I don't have to go to this store.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah.

Perfect.

I think it stresses out my husband to have like a grocery order

worth of food in the house at once.

Then he's like, I can't find

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Mm-hmm.

So,

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Okay,

because you know, you'll do, I'll do like a bigger order, right?

So, because otherwise it's not really worth the delivery costs and stuff.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: sure.

But I'm not really a go to the store every day type of person.

I mean, we have one,

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Mm-hmm.

five minutes away, so I can pick up, you know, if I'm we're outta

milk or whatever, or I need tortillas or something, I can just go down and grab

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Okay.

And does your husband do any shopping at all, or

yeah, a little

Danna Levy Hoffmann: is that not his?

come home with the random things.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Okay.

So it's not necessarily that he gets what you need, it gets what he

kind of feels like having at home.

yeah.

he'll do dinner for little ones, once a week.

and then the rest of the time I cook.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Okay,

That's also a

Danna Levy Hoffmann: So that gives me kind of an idea.

I will also say

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah,

dinner burnout now.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: yeah, of course.

it's just kind of a lot too.

together, you know,

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Of course.

a week and, and if, if something is not planned, then his default is

always let's just go out or order delivery because I don't wanna deal

with dishes and I don't wanna deal with the planning and we don't have

anything and I don't like that so much.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Hmm.

you know, it's expensive, but also not going to get good food necessarily.

So.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah.

So I try to have enough stuff on hand that I can just whip

something up quickly and avoid that.

But no, it doesn't always work.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah.

And what about freezer space and freezer use?

How are you with that in general?

rely a lot on the freezer I

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Okay.

Good.

so usually when I'll do these grocery orders, I'll get like

frozen veggies and frozen fruit.

I try to keep

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Mm-hmm.

I will freeze, extra leftovers.

I've got I think, pumpkin soup in there now, and some pulled pork.

and yeah, random, random

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Okay, perfect.

that I've saved, you know, too many chilies or something

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah,

chop 'em up and save in their.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: perfect.

And there's enough space in the freezer, like you have an extra freezer space.

'cause I mean, for our non Swiss listeners freezer space in Switzerland,

it's a, it's like a shoebox.

so yeah.

Okay.

So you do have,

a, a separate compartment.

It's like three shoe boxes, but,

Danna Levy Hoffmann: okay.

Oh,

we

Danna Levy Hoffmann: you're lucky.

Okay.

drawers because we put too much stuff in there.

So.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah.

Yeah.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Okay.

But, but, but it's good to know that you have a little

bit more than just one shoebox.

I always recommend getting just another freezer in Switzerland because it

just, it makes all the difference.

Right.

but Okay.

I'm just trying to gather the information so that I can maybe help

you to come up with a good idea.

So there's a couple of things there.

I think that frozen stuff, I mean, frozen vegetables I honestly, truly believe

are even better than fresh veggies.

They are usually frozen within very few hours from literally being picked.

So they're vitamins, mineral, like everything is, is great there.

So, what I try to do, and I.

Was terrible at it in the past, and now I'm kind of utilizing it

and I'm, I'm really enjoying it.

So that's something to think about is you can get like whatever meat is

on sale, for example, And marinate it and plop it in the freezer.

Right.

And it's as easy as the morning of you pull it out, put it in the fridge,

or put it in a bowl of water or whatever it is, and forget about it.

And then in the evening you have something at hand that you can chuck

in the oven on the stove with the frozen vegetables, and that's a meal.

Right.

Worst case if you guys want some grain that's the easy part, right?

Is just cooking up a quick grain or, or pasta or whatever the kids will eat.

but in general, I think that utilizing the freezer with

things that are already ready.

That's what I mean.

So not just having, you know, chicken breast in there, but to

having chicken breast that you already marinated, put some spice

on there and so it has some flavor.

It's so much more motivating to know that it's got already got flavor

and all you need to do is turn on the oven or put a pan on the heat.

it is super helpful.

So I think in those moments of like, oh shit, what do we eat?

To just pull something out to defrost meat.

If it's in a Ziploc bag and you put it in a huge, you know, in the sink full of

water, it will defrost relatively quickly.

so that's kind of one idea to keep in mind.

Another one is, as you've been doing, but maybe doing it in a bigger scale

is whenever you're cooking cook double.

Cook more, right?

Make sure that whatever you're cooking will feed you guys, not just the meal and

maybe leftovers, but at least two meals and hopefully leftovers, and then you

have that extra frozen meal waiting for you to just be like, I cannot be fucked.

Here's last week's soup.

Here's last month's soup, chili, whatever it is, that will freeze well, so.

Again, utilizing that freezer space and just in the morning, just being like, what

is it that I can save time on tonight?

Like I know I will come home exhausted.

What is it that I can pull out right now this morning before I leave home

that will be sitting and smiling at me as soon as I come home and open the

fridge and I know that everything is set.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, absolutely.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: So, you know, it's less of a meal planning per se.

It's more of a, I will plan on making double that so that I

don't need to meal plan next time.

Yeah.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: that's, that's one thing.

And then also, I know that it's not the funnest thing to hear, but

on weekends what I try to do at least is plan on at least an hour.

To be in the kitchen and pre-prep things for the rest of the week.

one thing that works really well, and this is for the kids, and

this is also, potentially for you,

But what I do for the kids is I will just buy some tortillas.

We will fry up a bunch of eggs, like scrambled eggs.

I'll make whatever beans or lentils and, and minced meat or chicken and And then we

just take those tortillas, we smear them with, let's say cream cheese or something,

Plop everything in, roll it up, freeze it.

And now I have.

at least 12 wraps.

We usually try to go through two of these 'cause my kid takes it for to

school for lunch, but it can actually utilize us for dinner as well.

So if we're like, can't be bothered, I can pull out a bunch of these wraps and

we have food, we just need to heat it up.

So that's another idea where you can easily make that also

gluten-free and, low carb.

So those are different ideas on what can I do that will maybe take me an extra hour

on a weekend, maybe even extra two hours.

It doesn't actually matter, but it will then take a lot of stress off of

me for the entire rest of the week.

no, that's a great idea.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Hmm.

I ask a really dumb question?

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Always.

And it's not gonna be dumb, I'm sure.

How do you heat up these wraps and stuff if you, I mean, I don't have

a microwave, so then I've like looked

Danna Levy Hoffmann: I don't either.

you know, egg bites in the muffin tin and stuff like that for easy

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Mm-hmm.

But how do I make them warm?

It's such a pain on the stove.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah, it is.

let's say the plus is the food is ready, the minus is it's frozen.

So the only thing is just to think ahead.

So you need to think about the next meal.

When you're eating the meal before,

When you're having dinner, you're like, okay, great.

For breakfast, I'll pull out a few of these egg muffins, and then by tomorrow

they will be at least defrosted enough.

Maybe they're not gonna be fully defrosted, but they're gonna be defrosted

enough to put in a baking paper and in the oven, or like in a, in a thing

covered with like wet ba Do you know the trick of the wet baking paper?

you take a baking paper and you crunch it up.

Into a ball, and then you run it under, water and you squeeze out the water.

And now you have a steamer, a very cheap steamer.

So you kind of wrap up whatever it is, the muffins or whatever,

and plop in them in the oven.

You can put, aluminum foil over that.

Just don't let aluminum foil touch the actual food 'cause that's super unhealthy.

But if you have that wet, baking paper that you just tuck everything in and

then cover it with, with aluminum foil and put it in the oven, it will

actually also heat up quicker because you have the steam action going as well.

Okay.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: So if you remember to pull it out, the night before or the

morning of even, if you have some, some food left over that you want to rely

on the, you're thinking about dinner tomorrow, for tomorrow because you're

sitting at dinner and you're eating pizza.

'cause you're like, fuck, I didn't get food and now my husband wants to order in.

That's when you pull out the food for the next day.

Okay.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: So that utilize that energy, utilize that anger and energy

into like, what is the next fucking meal?

Because I don't want to eat, I don't wanna do this anymore.

Yeah.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: until it kind of becomes rhythmic, until

it becomes just secondhand.

And then you immediately think like, okay, you know, you come home.

fuck, I'll just pull something out at least for the next meal, or I will

just at least soak some brown rice so that we'll have it for tomorrow

so that I can quickly make it and it doesn't take an hour to cook.

I'm just so grateful that I grew up to a very Jewish Iraqi

grandma and mom that just.

Every meal, we would talk about the next meal already.

So for me, it's almost secondhand.

I'm like, okay, what is, you know, ah, I need to think

about the next three meals now.

So it's easier, but I know that it is a struggle for, for people who

maybe didn't grow up in a Loony house.

so it's just getting into the rhythm of it.

What am I eating for the next meal?

Especially if that meal is upsetting you 'cause you didn't manage to great.

What is the next fucking meal?

I'm not doing this again.

yeah.

Channel the anger.

Love it.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Exactly.

Exactly.

Now, look, I'm crazy and when there's a whole chicken on sale, I will buy

four whole chickens and I stand in the kitchen for a couple of hours and I.

Dissect that chicken and I'll put the breasts in one.

I chop them up so it's easy.

Put the spices, put in the Ziploc, done.

I put the wings in one, I put the legs in one.

I even take off the, the bones of the legs.

It's a pain in the ass.

But again, for me it's two hours of the week.

Where now I know I have chicken for a good couple of weeks in the freezer.

Yeah.

I mean, I

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Right.

Same goes for lentils.

Yeah.

So that's the thing, you know.

we can do a few of those.

I mean, I do have a giant bag of chicken carcasses freezer

Danna Levy Hoffmann: There.

Oh, perfect.

So you can even make bone broth That's perfect.

make broth.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Bone

Yeah.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: perfect.

So those are the little things that I can say.

Those are quite helpful.

So then when you go to the supermarket on your kind of usual run, or when

you order, I, I'm big on ordering.

I think you save so much time and for a family of five, I think it's

legit to make an online order.

You know, it arrives.

Everyone's helping to, to put things away.

Hopefully that's my kid's job, honestly.

And then, you know, you have everything.

You don't need to think about it on the way back from work.

You don't have to think of a carve time for it.

so I, and this is no disrespect to your husband, but I think if he's not

necessarily a big component of helping to shop and cook at home, then I don't think

he gets to say if the shopping should be done online or not, because it's your.

It's your job, it's your business at home, it's something that, of course is

your battle and your decision at the end of the day But to me, I'm kind of like,

look, if you're not cooking, you're not.

I, the, I'm, I'm trying to make life easier and your health better.

So I'm thinking of five people as a whole, whereas you're

thinking, what's the easiest?

How do I not have to wash dishes and, and just feed the kids?

It's cool.

Sometimes it's great, sometimes it's perfect.

Sometimes we need that to, to balance us and be like, no, you're

not standing in the kitchen now we're, we're ordering pizza,

Cool.

Yeah, we need that.

But when it becomes a, too habitual and, and something that

is really bothering you, obviously.

Then that's where you need to be like, well, I'm gonna put my foot down now

Yeah.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: I'm gonna order food and it's fine.

And, you know, and, and just really making sure that you're ordering things that

you actually need and don't go to waste.

And then it's not a waste of money when,

No, we're

Danna Levy Hoffmann: when it's not going to waste.

about that.

I mean, I'll order like kilos of fruit or whatever, but not the stuff that ever, no,

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Hmm.

waste.

So, yeah, it's amazing.

I mean, the kids will just come and, you know, they just plow

through the, the fruit basket

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah.

yeah.

No, that's not the issue.

I

Danna Levy Hoffmann: And that's perfect.

Yeah.

you know, we have a smallish fridge and then when it's full, you

know, you have to know where things

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah.

and the like male refrigerator, blindness is kind of a real phenomenon.

I dunno.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: It's real thing.

It's a real thing.

It's not just a fridge, it's everything.

Yeah.

It's.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: But yeah.

So, know, and I think that that can be frustrating then when

the fridge is full after we've gotten an order and then he is like,

I don't know where the jelly is.

I'm like, it's right there in the

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah,

yeah.

that's okay.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: yeah, he's not here, so he can't speak for himself.

I get that, but.

himself.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: He cannot defend himself, but that's good for us.

And I think that, I've worked with enough couples and enough people and enough men

to know that, like, yeah, okay, cool.

Yeah, I, I get it.

I understand, but at the same time I'm like, well, you either cook more and

shop more, or I'm gonna do it my way.

So, pick your battles.

Yeah.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Pick your battles, dude.

Like, it, it is just, is what it is.

I know that we're slowly running out of time, but how do you feel about that?

Do you feel that that's something that will help you to kind of motivate and, try

to kind of somehow get back on that horse,

Yeah,

I mean, it's motivating not just because it will, help me to feel

better, hopefully, but also because it just helps to make life easy.

Year.

so it's a

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah.

two birds with one stone.

you know, I've tried food prepping before and doing the whole thing and

like meal planning and I think I just kind of went a little bit overboard

'cause people were complaining and I don't want this and I don't want that.

And I wasn't getting any input into what people did want or nor any help with the

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Hmm.

the prepping.

And I just got resentful.

But

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Mm-hmm.

right?

This is like.

Just tomorrow's meal, so that it's not an issue tomorrow.

And so I'll try to do that shift in my thinking to make it, a little

bit easier for my future self.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Yeah.

Yeah.

and really, even could in theory.

Do a once a week online shopping, but do a days in advance so that you know that

every, whatever day that you know that you will have time to prepare if it's on

the weekend or if it's a day that you're working from home or whatever it is that

you have the food there already, that you don't have to also waste time going to

shop because it is fucking exhausting.

To the few men who are listening to our podcast here.

It's fucking exhausting to go shopping,

it

Danna Levy Hoffmann: come on, help out.

It's work.

It's work.

And then you're thinking and you're trying to calculate and is this cheaper

and is that better and is that healthier?

And you're like, oh my God.

And you come outta there and you're like, I can't even think of taking stuff out of

the bags right now because I'm exhausted.

mention

Danna Levy Hoffmann: So.

it all home.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Shlepping it all home.

That's why I'm so glad that I have two grown boys.

'cause I call them from the way, I'm like, you get your ass

down and schlep everything up.

This bag needs to go to the freezer downstairs.

That stuff needs to go there and just have fun.

And so I have that off my back.

Your kids are younger,

Yeah,

Danna Levy Hoffmann: it's, it, it will come, it will come

they're still in that phase where they're

Danna Levy Hoffmann: to a certain degree.

15 liters of milk a week.

Like so heavy.

All this milk and then the

Danna Levy Hoffmann: I know.

the five kilo bags of apple.

I mean, I don't weightlifting just getting all that stuff home.

So,

Danna Levy Hoffmann: I know, I know.

Yes.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: just focus on the core muscles.

Focus on the core muscles, like it's a form of exercise.

Okay, great.

So, Give it a try.

just really looking at your schedule and saying, great, this is where I'm plugging

and physically plug into your schedule.

This is my prep time.

This is the time that I'm going to cook and prepare stuff, or this is the time

where I'm shopping, or this is the time where I want the shopping to arrive.

Things like that.

Just plugging those in already motivates you to know.

Okay, great.

I will do that.

I have time for that in on that day.

Right.

And five second rule.

I beg you

Okay.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: it a shot.

Do it every single time.

I'm like, do I want coffee or do I want tea?

5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Literally as stupid as that.

Okay.

And then you will utilize it enough to go like, do I want the apple

or do I want the piece of cake?

It's very easy to say, fuck it, piece of cake, obviously

piece of cake, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

And then that mommy voice is like, no, you actually want that apple like you.

You should have that apple.

So.

It, it does make life easier just by counting down from five to one.

I promise.

It's just remembering it.

Yeah.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Okay.

Well I'll take

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Okay.

then.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Please do.

thank you so much for your guidance over the past three months.

It's been really,

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Of course.

to learn about myself and to learn from you.

So

Danna Levy Hoffmann: Thank you, and it was a pleasure working with you.

You have a down it's just life that comes in the way.

So whenever that happens, just take a big, deep breath and

just be like, I can do this.

it's just a little bit of a glitch on the road and I'm good.

I'm getting right back on it.

Even if it's a month later, even if it's two months later, you can do this.

All right.

Thanks so much, Danna.

Danna Levy Hoffmann: No problem, love.

Have a beautiful, beautiful rest of the day and hopefully we'll be in touch soon.